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Hi all

I'm back - have not been here for a while. 

Well, have been learning guitar now for nearly two years and am enjoying it.  Last time i was here i had just bought an Ibanez guitar.  It was good (well made / nice neck) but the pickups were a bit muddy and I soon grew out of it. 

So a while back I got a G&L Asat classic guitar and its F***ing amazing!!!!!!  If you get the chance to check them out - please do.  The Asat ia really a Telecaster and they are, in my opinion, and the pros i have been talking to, some of the finest made guitars out there.

You can buy a USA built one for around £1500 or what is called a "Tribute" model (built in Indonesia).  The tributes have the same pickups, fixtures and fittings of the USA ones and cost around £500 - absolute bargin!!!!!!!!

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists

I should also point out that as much as I enjoy learning to play, I am still pretty bad at it.

I still have not mastered Barre chords (can play them fine and clear - but takes me too long to get into the shape) - but i am hoping more practice will help.

Any tips people have to help with practice and playing - greatly received.

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists

Wouldn't worry about bar chords - Jimi Hendrix never did - or Wilco Johnson. I don't tend look at the make when I try out a guitar now, just how it plays and what it sounds like some copies are better than the originals, obviously if you are a collector then big makes rule.

I tried a squier standard telecaster the other day in a cash convertor shop and I was amazed how good it sounded and played needless to say when I went back later to try it out it had gone - a bargain for someone at £99. Not saying they are all that good though.

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists

Hi Dan

Thanks for the vote of confidence - though my hunch is hendrix could compensate with large hands and talent (smile.....).

G&L is worth a look - but they are not copies.  the 'L' stands for Leo Fender and his newer tele and strat models represent his improvements from research and development on the Fender's and his earlier designs.  Check out the tribute series for what are, in my opinion, the best guitars for the money around today. About £500 will get you a guitar made in premium swamp ash, MFD pickups and fittings (same as USA models). 

My advice - forget Fender MIM models and squires....go G&L.  I am getting a USA one price up at the moment (quote is £1300) which is tempting but i need to sell a kidney first... 

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I agree that you should play the way you want to play, pretty much, it all depends on what you want to play. Although I did do music diplomas and stuff i don't use many full barre chords any more, unless it's part of a song that you can't easily get to sound correct without it. Even so, I think there are too many music courses and "rock academies" these days that spoil the whole point and ethos. of being a rock or blues musician, which is to be indivudual, inventive and play like yourself. Most of the long established rock stars we know wouldn't pass first grade at these courses, cos they're fundamentally individual and untrained in a mechanical way, which is what has made them what they are.

Yes they reckon G&L are some of the best Strat and Tele types out there today unless you want to go customised. Must admit I have an American Deluxe 2004 Strat that came with lacquer on the frets and stuff, not what you'd really expect from Fender these days for £900 or so. Something strange about my old MIJ Strat, my hands seem to favour that still even though it's starting to fall apart with use and sounds a bit harsher than the American Deluxe.

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists

Your MIJ one might be worth keeping on to as there are rumours that, depending on its age, they could be amongst the best out there (even better than USA if its from the 1980s).  Dan knows about this story.

On other news, I go a Boss e-band jam station the other day and simply cannot put it down.  Here are some examples (comments welcome).

Please keep in mind that (i) i have only been playing about 18months and (ii) I recorded these on the E-band about 10mins after unpacking it so there are some errors / etc.  they represent a purely creative - 'lets just go for it' approach with no preparation.

http://www.4shared.com/audio/uhegM50u/SONG0004.html
 
http://www.4shared.com/audio/33VW9aUk/SONG0008.html
 
http://www.4shared.com/audio/dElBYR43/SONG0013.html
 
http://www.4shared.com/audio/qtteH9It/SONG0014.html
 

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my friend found an old well used and played guitar as he was removing rubbish to be dumped from a locals home and he gave it to me.Reckon its from the sixties or seventies. Its a small thin guitar with one chrome pickup and has the extra fret barr at the top for that exrta twangy sound. Also has a steel round neck adjuster at bottom front of the of frett board. The only markings that suggest a make or maker is a small circle right side of the pickup on the scratch plate. In the circle is what looks like the number four jazzed up and to the right of the four is the word KAY.Tho this is a small thin guitar it has full size frett board and its nice and thin and great to play. The scratch plate is black and body is sunburst with black all around the outer edge. Question...Does anyone know the history ,maker,of this wee rock guitar? I have just joined this web site and saw you guitar bashers and thought maybe you could comment on my lucky old guitar find.

Fom Viking

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists
Ophiel wrote:

I should also point out that as much as I enjoy learning to play, I am still pretty bad at it.

I still have not mastered Barre chords (can play them fine and clear - but takes me too long to get into the shape) - but i am hoping more practice will help.

Any tips people have to help with practice and playing - greatly received.

Don't worry about the barre chords, they come as you practice and your hands get stronger. I was useless at them (mainly because I was pretty wee as a teen) but now they're pretty much standard for my playing (given I thrash out extreme metal on a fairly regular basis).

I've heard several ways to strengthen your hands- one cheap and effective way is to cup your hand and place an elastic band round it. Then just flex! build up repetitions as you would with any other exercises. The other way is just to play, play, play :D

Strumming fast; don't use your whole arm. Thsi is the most tempting thing to do (especially with gallop rythms) but it's better to learn to only move your wrist.

Can't think of anything else.

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists
Viking wrote:

my friend found an old well used and played guitar as he was removing rubbish to be dumped from a locals home and he gave it to me.Reckon its from the sixties or seventies. Its a small thin guitar with one chrome pickup and has the extra fret barr at the top for that exrta twangy sound. Also has a steel round neck adjuster at bottom front of the of frett board. The only markings that suggest a make or maker is a small circle right side of the pickup on the scratch plate. In the circle is what looks like the number four jazzed up and to the right of the four is the word KAY.Tho this is a small thin guitar it has full size frett board and its nice and thin and great to play. The scratch plate is black and body is sunburst with black all around the outer edge. Question...Does anyone know the history ,maker,of this wee rock guitar? I have just joined this web site and saw you guitar bashers and thought maybe you could comment on my lucky old guitar find. Fom Viking

Probably  kay guitar from the 60s? haticeozturk.seesaa.net/article/142753088.html 
there is also a wikipedia site for kay guitars en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kay_Musical_Instrument_Company

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Thanks Daniel for the two web links on Kay Guitars. I will have a look and if my old kay is listed on the sites I'll drop a comment let you Know. Ta, just joined this site yesterday and I got a result....Great.

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Re: Another one for Dan and fellow guitarists

As someone mentioned barr cords on this page I would be grateful for any tips on the best and easiest three bar cords to play together without getting my fingers lost in knots. Still learning the guitar and my bar cords dont sound like the ones on  the telly are playing. I'm using a Peavey Blazer 158 15w and a Cort guitar with two single pickups and one humbucker. I get a good sounds playing some lead guitar but my chords dont sound right. I have a collection of pedals also. One more Q...My electic accoustic a Jim Deacon seems only to play using one of my short pedal cables when plugging it into amp. My other two electrics play okay with the longer lead....why wont it play with the longer lead.

                                     Wullie

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