Fault Lines

Fault Lines

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  1. Mysteryshopper says:

    That’s a can of worms you’ve
    That’s a can of worms you’ve opened Ian.

    • Ian Topham says:

      Mysteryshopper
      [quote=Mysteryshopper]That’s a can of worms you’ve opened Ian.[/quote]

      I wonder what you mean? Anyway, I did not feel the quake up here in Carlisle, but then again WWIII could have started and I would have slept through it.

  2. Lee Waterhouse says:

    Aren’t some leylines
    Aren’t some leylines supposed to follow faults ?

    What i found odd with this one was that whilst we felt it here in Stalybridge, work mate from Whaleybridge didnt and he’s further south. We must be sat on a squidgy bit. I was still awake, just about to put my book down when it started. Sounded like a very strong wind at first rattling the roof, then there was a big shake. The look on the wifes face was priceless, a bit like this

  3. Mysteryshopper says:

    There have been surveys
    There have been surveys showing a geographical relationship between areas of heavy faulting and anomalous experiences. However, due to extreme variability of the quality of the data (anomalous stuff), I think the relationship supposedly demonstrated are extremely doubtful.

  4. Mauro says:

    The celebrated Hessdalen
    The celebrated Hessdalen Lights were considered to be linked to fault lines until recently. However Italy’s CNR (National Research Center) has made a very fine case study (most pubblications can be found here). I have more than a passing interest in spectrometry and I have read the some of the articles with enormous interest.
    Spectral datas seem to indicate that the lights are a gaseous admixture (air plus some trace metals, Scandium being the most prominent) which is ignited by a still unidentified agent.
    This is the way research should be done…

  5. Mysteryshopper says:

    Thanks Mauro – excellent
    Thanks Mauro – excellent link. I’m already wondering how difficult it would be to mount a diffraction grating on my camera! What a superb idea.

  6. Ian Topham says:

    Would they have an effect of
    Would they have an effect of the type of EMF’s that can induce experiences?

    • Ian Topham says:

      Ian Topham wrote:
      Would

      [quote=Ian Topham]Would they have an effect of the type of EMF’s that can induce experiences?[/quote]

      The kind of fields magnetic fields so far measured prior to earhquakes along fault lines (and they such fields are rare) are too weak to induce magnetic hallucinations.

  7. Urisk says:

    Links to the paranormal?
    Links to the paranormal? That I’m not too sure about…

    Links to this so-called Global Warming? Ah not that’s a different story! I wonder if Global Warming or whatever you want to call it, has links to plate tectonic activity. Looking through prehistory it seems that periods of continental drift seem aparrent in times of hot, dry climates (such as the Cretaceous). Since PT works on a long timescale I suppose we can trace it back quite far, regarding earthquakes and volcanic erruptions. Even though you can get cold snaps (eg the "mini-iceage" from Victorian-1960s) the general trend can still be gradual warmth. Of course I believe that we are contributing, I just believe that there has to be more to it than our own activity. Insolation and albido is another, admittedly more popular theory than my PT one (never heard anyone else talk about it).

  8. Ophiel says:

    Chris Rutowski has
    Chris Rutowski has criticised the fault-line / paranormal link many years ago. Might be worth a read for some of you.

  9. Agricola says:

    The Great Glen fault line
    The Great Glen fault line cuts across the north of Scotland from Colonsay in the Hebrides to Shetland and there are frequent tremors but, as far as I’m aware, no UFO or aerial phenomena hot spots. There have been a few other things seen on one of the lochs though…

    • Ian Topham says:

      Agricola wrote:There have
      [quote=Agricola]There have been a few other things seen on one of the lochs though…[/quote]

      Like what?  UFO’s?

  10. Agricola says:

    More like an unidentified
    More like an unidentified swimming object – the fault runs under/through Loch Ness. Actually, I’m wondering if there are any reports of lights being seen on the water? I can’t recall any, but Urisk might be more knowledgable on this.

    As I say, I’m not aware of any UFO hotspots in the Highlands, along the faultline. However, on a slight asside, I seem to recall reading somewhere that the original founders of the Findhorn Community, who were heavily influenced by alien visitors and UFOs in the ’50s and ’60s were orginal based in the hills around Loch Ness.

    I’ve got family living on the faultline and I’ll give them a probe over Christmas.

  11. Mysteryshopper says:

    Great Glen fault
    There are faults everywhere. I don’t see why there should be anything special about the Great Glen fault. For a fault was associated with magnetic activity (and evidence is very thin) it would depend on the type of rocks traversed.

  12. BaronIveagh says:

    Shake and Bake
    The only connection I know of is that occasionally geologically active areas can release mildly hallucinogenic gasses. 

    Oh, and that areas where large numbers of people are killed are marginally more prone to hauntings then areas where mass slaughter has not occured.  So areas around fault lines may be more prone to such things, where faults pass through cities or shake up crater lakes full of CO2.

    Summum Nec Metuam Diem Nec Optima

    • Ian Topham says:

      BaronIveagh wrote:
      Oh, and

      [quote=BaronIveagh]Oh, and that areas where large numbers of people are killed are marginally more prone to hauntings then areas where mass slaughter has not occured.  [/quote]

      I don’t know if hauntings are tied to places where people have died or not.  They have to be tied into where people are present to witness the experience.  Therefore we would expect to get more hauntings reported in cities than on an unpopulated island or rarely visited field.  Population centres will come with a history of deaths which some may get attributed to the hauntings.

      Geography and geology and the topography would probably have had some say in the placement of settlements though.

    • Mysteryshopper says:

      BaronIveagh wrote:
      The only

      [quote=BaronIveagh]The only connection I know of is that occasionally geologically active areas can release mildly hallucinogenic gasses.  [/quote]

      Which gasses?

      [quote]Oh, and that areas where large numbers of people are killed are marginally more prone to hauntings then areas where mass slaughter has not occured. .[/quote]

      Do you have any evidence for that? I don’t know of any.

      • BaronIveagh says:

        Mysteryshopper
        [quote=Mysteryshopper][quote=BaronIveagh]The only connection I know of is that occasionally geologically active areas can release mildly hallucinogenic gasses.  [/quote]

        Which gasses? [/quote]

        ethelyne, methane, H2S, CO2 spring to mind, all of which, under the right circumstances can cause altered cognitive states.

        [quote=Mysteryshopper][quote=BaronIveagh]
        [quote]Oh, and that areas where large numbers of people are killed are marginally more prone to hauntings then areas where mass slaughter has not occured. .
        [/quote]

        Do you have any evidence for that? I don’t know of any.[/quote] [/quote]

        Consider the proportion of ghost sightings, for example, between Gettysburg, PA, USA, and Salamanca, NY.  Both are approximately the same size, and exist in similar climates, Salamanca, being slightly colder, and both geologically stable, though Salamanca is somewhat more hilly.  However, the number of alleged hauntings is wildly different.  Further, almost 90% of reports of phantoms at Gettysburg related to the battle, where as the handful of cases from Salamanca are related to events that are widely distributed in time.

        Granted, you could argue statistical fluke, and I’d have to concede that I do not have hard data for other locations to argue the point.  I can only suggest examining the numbers of reports between similar sized locations of comparable age and then examine how many alleged hauntings occur in ones with disaster and war in their past to ones without.

        Summum Nec Metuam Diem Nec Optima