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Re: Creatures in scotland
Mauro wrote:

A recent "Internet fad" is trying to explain most freshwater monsters with "eunuch eels" (not joking, just ask the chaps at the CFZ, they coined the term). According to folklore these are sterile eels which become resident to a given body of water and grow to quite prodigious sizes.
However while sterile eels which do not migrate to the Sargasso Sea are well known to science (and can achieve quite incredible lifespans) they do not appear to grow any larger than "regular" eels. The largest European eel documented was 133cm long (a little over 4 ft) and weighed 6.6 kg (14.5 lb). Even assuming for witness exageration it's a far cry from the monster 20 ft reports surfacing on the Internet.

How about a migratory species related to the conger?  They can reach 10 feet, easily, so one twice that might not be out of the question.

Can't say I've heard of the internet fad, I'll have to look into it.

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There are a few problems with Congridae eels.
First is that they are an exclusively saltwater family, spending their entire life cycle at sea.
Second is the fact that dimensions are often exagerated: 10ft is a record length, ordinary specimen are much smaller than that.
Third is their behavior: their swimming pattern doesn't remember in the least the one attributed to freshwater monsters.

Mind that even Bernard Heuvelmans fell for a giant eel as a good candidate for some types of water monster: back in the '50s a Danish research vessel captured an enormous leptocephalus (technical term for a larval eel) at abyssal depth. This fish was 6 ft long and by applying growth models of known eels it was inferred it could have reached 100 ft easily. As always our knowledge of abyssal creatures is sketchy to say the least but after four decades it was finally declared to be a Notcanthus eel which completes its growth while still in the larval stage.

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I recall one guy on another CZ forum proposing that it could be some sort of giant gastropod, feeding off the detritus on the bottom, only sometimes surfacing for some reason or another. Hmm... Giant loch slugs. Certainly more plausible than plesiosaurs.

I just tend to attribute it to memories of tales of kelpies and each uisges. I'd so love for them to exist, as with sea monsters (mind you they sort of do... just not in the paranormal sense that we know of). It can't just be us Urisks that still cling on!

There is another critter I wish there was more on, and they are thankfully on this site: the Yird Pig from Banffshire. They sound suitably Lovecraftian!

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Eh... giant grastropods have an entire difffernent set of problems.  Most of them survive by eating tremendous amounts, and I really don't see the Loch having THAT much detrius unless there are some sort of freshwater whales in the loch that the scots have been keeping under thier hats for all this time...

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Well.... funny you should mention that ;)

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I read one time about some scientists in the Sargasso Sea...where eels go to breed...finding a immature eel that was six feet long. This has made me wonder if the lake monsters are freak of nature eels..they grow big than die. 

I know in America there are male salmon that stay tiny all their lives and never leave fresh water. Maybe there is a reverse situation here. These freaks of nature follow their breathern home...can travel through shallow water and then grow to big to escape. 

This is just a thought and nothing I'm willing to fight over ;) Of course I would love to find a live pleisiosaur.....

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 I still think folklore is the most likely source for the Scottish lake monsters rather than a living, breathing eel or dinosaur.

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you are probably correct...but I'm one of those people that's willing to ponder just about anything...except UFOs and ancient astronauts. Can't stand that crowd.

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Ian Topham wrote:

 I still think folklore is the most likely source for the Scottish lake monsters rather than a living, breathing eel or dinosaur.

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Possibly, but then, we also find that some legends and folklore are based on fact.  You never know which is which.

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[quote=BaronIveaghPossibly, but then, we also find that some legends and folklore are based on fact.  You never know which is which.
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I have a friend who says "Take legends seriously, just not literally".  Always sounded like good advice.



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