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Milesians ( Scythians ) Discuss?


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CeltiGael Saxon
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 Anybody interested in discussing a Scythian settlement in isles? 
Left an image from Perthshire  on the right a scythian gold from the Ukraine



Left a Stone Figure from Boa island northern ireland, on the right a Scythian Kurgan Stele from Kyrgyzstan.

Similarities between The Goddess Brigid and Scythia's Goddess Tabiti.

Red Hair Blue eyes.  Both ancient societies were known for thier chariot skills. 
Pictish Beast
Pictish Beast

Scythian Ibex

Scythian Ibex

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 Well that came out messed up.

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It is notthe most function friendly forum so don't worry if pictures do not show up exactly as you want.  You always e-mail them in to info@mysteriousbritain.co.uk and I'll try to sort them out for you.

Rather than a settlement, couldn't the similarities in goods be the result of trade links?

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 I think if the Scythian region were closer maybe trade could be a possibility. But how many Items could have reached Ireland and Britain, from the area of the black sea.

The the Scythians like the Picts were tatooed.  

It just seems to me that there is something to the book of invasions story.

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Perhaps the connection might be Rome?  Sarmatian auxillaria were stationed all over Britannia

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Thats a good suggestion Baronlveagh, it may even be possible to identify the general areas where these units may have served.

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From Roman-Britain.org:


"Ala Primae Sarmatarum
The First Wing of Sarmatians
Cassius Dio (Historiarum Romanorum quae Supersunt LXXI.xvi.2) records that 5,500 Sarmatian cavalry were posted to Britain under the terms of the treaty of ad 175. These men would very likely have been split into eleven Cavalry Alae of quingenary strength (i.e. 500 troopers per unit), or may have been used to provide a cavalry contingent for around twenty-odd under-strength infantry units, thus forming cohortes equitatae, or indeed, any combination. It is very unlikely that any were formed into a large cavalry ala milliaria, as these are very rare, there being generally only a single example in any one province, and the only one recorded in Britain was housed in the Stanwix fort on Hadrian's Wall, the Ala Petriana. These cavalry troopers must have been housed in forts scattered throughout northern Britain and Wales; some of which were apparently formed into the Ala Sarmatarum and stationed at the Ribchester fort. The unit is attested only on two undated inscriptions.
As the ala became depleted - through retirement mostly - its numbers were not replenished it seems, and its status changed to that of a numerus 'company' by 222-35, and thence to a lowly cuneus 'wedge' by the end of the fourth century. The tile stamped BSAR found at Catterick, may have connections with this unit in one of its several incarnations. During its entire lifetime the unit was stationed at Ribchester in Britain, and uniquely allowed to change its military classification."

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I know the area of Stanwix very well, it is in Carlisle where I now live and I went to college on that there.  The museum in Carlisle, Tullie House has some great Roman exhibits.

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Scythian 5th–4th c.BC. Salbyk kurgan surrounded by balbals with kurgan obelisk on the top. Upper Enisey-Irtysh interfluvial

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This is of course Newgrange

Above is the Irtysh Mound below the Irish ... Ir-ty-sh / Ir-i-sh

Tara River (RussianТара) is a river in the Novosibirsk and Omsk Oblasts in Russia. It is a right tributary of the Irtysh River of the Ob basin.

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Flag of Tara (Omsk oblast).png

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Lovely shade of green the have for their flag would you not agree?

Tara (RussianТа́ра) is a town in Omsk Oblast, Russia, located about 300 kilometers (190 mi) north of Omsk, at the confluence of the Tara and Irtysh Rivers. Or more properly Tara Danu and Irtysh Danu.

And of course  Kyrgyzstan is just due south of Omsk Oblast...

 

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 The name Danu can mean:

A water goddess in Indo-European religion
An ancient Scythian word meaning "river". The commonly proposed etymology of the names of the Danube RiverDnieper RiverDniester RiverDonets River and Don River
Danu (Irish goddess)

The Tuatha Dé Danann ("peoples of the goddess Danu",) Or could it be the River peoples?

Both of you images of "Godesses" Are aquatic in nature and are said to have snakes about them... What if they were eels? Would make sense would it not? and their domain the rivers and their river land could be called Eelland..

And of course we all know there are no Snakes in Ireland don't we...

Beautiful artwork from Danu... made by the hands of the Tuatha Dé Danann The People of the River.

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As fr as the Irish-Scythean connection goes: remember that during the bronze age, the gaels were located in what is now central europe.  They were progresivly driven westward until the Romans drove them off the Iberian penensula and they fled to what is now southern Ireland, displacing an earlier people.

Remember that Danae was also the mother of Perseus.  There are any number of cultures that the Gaels could have gathered up this word from, though my theory is Demeter, as both Danu and Demeter have a connection to the land itself.

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