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Andrasta
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Good question Ian, but it's too early and my brain hurts when I try to sort out complex questions at this hour.

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Ide say thatde class as a "Playback" or "Imprint" ghost, Ghosts witch re-inact an event, continuously are often considored completely different from, ghosts witch actualy react to people, In Short, Its the ghost of an event

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There are many castles in Scotland proudly boasting to be "home" to anywhere from five to fiteen separate ghosts. Often overenthusiastic guides and promoters forget to mention that many of these apparitions haven't been seen in quite a while. If I remember correctly the only ghost of Glamis Castle which has been seen in the past fifty years is the Green (or Grey) Lady haunting the chapel.
On the issue of multiple apparitions it all depends on how you define a ghost: spirit of the deceased or some kind physical/psychic phenomenon, a "film" if you like? In the latter case even a complex apparition, say the battle of Naseby, may be seen as a single event, a single "ghost", especially given the fact that many soldiers seen in ghost form were still alive and well at the time of the apparition.

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Hi Mauro,
Distortion or not, lol, I enjoyed researching all the ghost
in the castles of Scotland. It actually led me here.

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Leekduck wrote:

Ide say thatde class as a "Playback" or "Imprint" ghost, Ghosts witch re-inact an event, continuously are often considored completely different from, ghosts witch actualy react to people, In Short, Its the ghost of an event

Are there multiple types of ghosts?  There are many unproven theories about what a ghost is and the stone tape or playback theory is one of them, as is the theory of ghosts being spirits.  If a haunting does not fit a given theory does this mean it is an entirely differant type of ghost or that the theory is flawed somehow?

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I think there are multiple types of ghosts, I agree with the Playback theory because its easy to understand. But thats me just trying to make everything logical.

There are numerous castles each claiming to have more then one ghost, Glamis Castle claims to have around 11. They probably are all different ghosts, though I have never ever heard of more then one ghosts manifesting at the same time.

I remember watching an episode of ghost hunters, when they were doing Mary Kings Close. (Witch is haunted by around 3 ghosts, Chesney, The close's last resident, a girl named annie, and a horse and carraige). They only got any evidence of a haunting from Chesney (They got a photo of him) Whilst the other ghosts seemed entirely quiet, Even when they tried to anger the ghost of Annie, By taking away the toys that visitors had left for her, Nothing happened. A Similar thing happened when a different paranormal group (Whos name I cant remember for the life of me) Went to Alcatraz Prison, Witch is haunted by three ghosts (the Infamous Al Capone, One of Capones murder victims who Followed him to the prison, Myles O'Bannion, And civil war Criminal Jim Cooks). They only got activity from Cooks, but not from the other two ghost's.
This Certainly points to the suspition that, in most places, theres only enough energy for one ghost at a time, And so a field, witch is haunted by squadrons of soldiers who re-inact a battle. This Field must either have a massive amount of energy, Or It is, somehow, one ghost or manifestation.

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I will tell you all an interesting story.
I have studied hauntings over the years and it is very rare to have what you call a multiple haunting.
Do I have your attention please?
We lived in a Georgian house built about 1720. Lovely place.It was and as far as I know still has the same name. It is a Nursing home now and that is why I will not give it's name or location. However, we always, as a family had a ritual on the eve of the Epiphany (6th Jan).when in Christianity the 3 Kings come to do homage to the infant Jesus
It went like this. My Dad would go downstairs and put the three Kings in the crib. To cut a long story short,as he put the figures in,he suddenly realised that he was surrounded by a huge crowd of people/spirits.
He abandoned everything ie the candle and holy water he was holding and went back upstairs to my mother who was still in bed,he said, everyone who lived in this place is here

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 There is a classical view of what a ghost is, and that model even permeates through modern conceptualisations.  But what if that ancient conceptual model was wrong?  What if these apparently humanoid apparitions were merely a guise?  Is what you see really what you get, or are these entities something altogether non-human?  After all, that is what I’d found in the 1990s.  An alternative hypothesis seems to imply that these are multi-dimensional beings, who originated on other worlds.
 
I even learned than another researcher (Barbara) had, decades ago as a child, been confronted by a ‘ghost’ who told her that his humanoid appearance was only a disguise to make her feel comfortable.  This childhood experience (which Barbara said had freaked her out at the time) came out in conversation, whist discussing the incongruities noted at various haunting venues.  The childhood invisible friend syndrome seems to be quite common, and my own mother appears to have been involved.  So what restrictions apply when the classical concepts fail? 

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Stephan, you've been pushing this multi-dimensional theory around the forum for a while now, and I'm curious what proof you have of this (since suddenly our site is attracting people pushing books of late).

Since I can think of two incidents where the subject was positivly ided by people who knew them in life, I have to ponder why hyper-dimensional beings would take on the appearnace of dead humans, since this would freak them out MORE, not LESS if you stop and think about human psychology. 

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 Dear Baronlveagh,

If I had never been personally involved in haunting events, I would have presumed that the classical concepts of ‘spirits-of-the-dead’ were correct.  Instead, these personal experiences have pointed toward something altogether different.  My wife and I have experienced many such things, and, unfortunately, the power of illusion effortlessly equates to the power of technological knowledge.  On one occasion, back in 1995, a spirit writer, who honestly believed that she was in contact with her dead mother, was frightened out of our home.  Her supposedly human ghost-to-writing paper ‘contacts’ turned into aliens.
I have a friend named Mark, who is a fellow equally experienced in such matters, staying here for the weekend.  He was actually born in Sacramento, CA, back in 1963.  Mark, who now lives in Watford, Hertfordshire, encounters an identical kind of spooky weirdness to that which my wife and I experience.  In conversation, Mark agrees that, unless someone has experienced personal haunting for themselves, they cannot comprehend this exceptionally eerie state of affairs, or its altogether otherworldly characteristics.

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