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Mysterious Britain has been asked to try and find some information regarding a village in Hertfordshire called Cold Christmas. Does anybody know of any tales, legends, hauntings etc, either in or surrounding this village?

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Cold Christmas

A quick Google reveals that most of the rumours and legends revolve around not the Cold Christmas village itself but, rather Thunderidge Church, in the the valley adjacent to the village.

See this link and this link.

According to the first link, most of the graves in Thunderidge Church graveyard are occupied by children who died around Christmas time.

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Thanks Neil, it looks like the Thunderidge Church could be the source of the stories connected to Cold Christmas.

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Cold Christmas

I've been there a few times, the first time was purely an attempt to skip traffic but the moment you enter the village it feels weird.

I decided to return and show a few mates one night as we were in the area i didn't think it would be to bad a little detour to a rather amusingly named village it was december so the idea of some pictures of us with the sign to stick on the web seemed like a funny idea. The road into the village (its only a few houses so i don't know if you can really call it a village) is pretty thin you can cross another car but it involves slowing down and having a wheel on the verge. the road is pretty long and about half way down the trees seem to lean over the road forming a tunel. at the time i didn't think much of this and eventualy we arrived.

We passed through the town and just outside there was a little pumping station or sewage works i'm not sure which but we turned around in the entrace and drove through again looking for somewhere to pull over to grab a picture. as we passed through the town this time i noticed something a bit odd, it was about 9pm (give or take a bit) and all the lights had gone off, when we first went through the houses looked normal, the odd upstairs light on the downstairs lit up nothing special, but on the second time EVERY house light was off, The light was on in the phone box (i'm not sure if there was a powercut at the time i found it pretty freaky)

I suddenly was aware of how dark it was, how the trees were pretty scary and i felt a bit intimidated and decided it was prob not a good idea to stop. as we were leaving the town i nearly hit some big 4x4 it was driving up the road with no lights on, i remember the car pretty well it was dark in colour and had a personalised number plate that was only 4 characters long. anyway i did the kind thing and sounded my horn and gave him the finger and flashed the lights.

I turned a few corners and there was the same car coming up the road infront of me, no lights same plate etc, this was pretty scary because there was just no way he could have got infront of me. I still can't think of an explanation, the car kindly pulled over to the side of the road and we just rolled passed, As we passed i remember seeing the drivers door was open and there were 2 children in the back pressing their faces against the window to watch us pass.

At this point i was pretty scared so i just drove home pretty quick and jumped on the internet to find out about this place and put my mind to rest. I couldn't find to much info but i stumbled upon a few local forums where people where talking about it. I found out about the church and other stories i was still pretty skeptical yet still pretty scared at the same time. I decided to pack a couple of torches and a camera, get some friends and head back out to cold christmas, of the 4 guys with me at first one was willing to go back.

we got to cold christmas at about midnight and tried to find the church, we found somewhere to park the car (i was secretly keeping the car somewhere i knew i could get to it within a short sprint) we walked up and down the main road looking through openings in the plants etc not finding anything, we walked up a few tracks.

there was a point when i was feeling the cold, i'd relaxed a bit, feeling a bit silly because i'd come on this huge mission to find nothing, i was at the bottom of this track and i waved the tourch from the right to the left and back again having a quick scan and then BRICKS, yep i was standing within a foot of the church and i still to this day swear that i had stood on that spot done a full 360 scan of the area with the torch and nothing was there.

I'm starting to waffle a bit but we ended up going there everynight for a couple of weeks and there was some pretty weird stuff i just can't explain. and i've spoken to a few people who have storys but i can't vouch for where they are on the truth or fiction scale but if you want to know more about what i've seen/heard let me know and i'll e-mail you a full account (if i can find them i'll scan in some old pictures i took)

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Cold Christmas

Thanks Dyvid and welcome to the forum.  I've seen topics on Cold Christmas appear in other forums but I've found no published accounts of experiences there.  I'd love to hear more and see any photographs you might find.

I think I might have to have a wander down there myself one day too.

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Cheers for the welcome, i've

Cheers for the welcome, i've been on and off looking into the history of Cold Christmas and google happened to throw up this discussion and i couldn't resist joining.

I have managed to confirm that the church was a private church built for some local family, which then became a public church, the church was slowly becoming disused and eventualy closed and replaced by one in the main town in either the 1800's or early 1900's. Occultism had kicked in at the site, i've heard it was because the church was build the wrong way around or something. As a result the church was demolished (appart from the tower, i don't know why the tower remains but if you have any idea i'd love to know, i'm assuming its some religious thing)

The tower was open to look in when i first went i've droped back a few times recently and unfortunately they have bricked it up so you can't get inside, there are gaps you can slip a light in through to have a look.

The town name comes from three girls who died around christmas, I've heard that they were murdered by the lady the parents had hired to look after them but i can't prove that, it could just be a stretch on the story of a spooky place. i can confirm the girls did in fact die one girl on christmas one year aged 7 the other 2 girls died 2 years later aged 5 and 7.

there are a collection of gravestones in the church most have the names and details scratched off but i do belive the girls graves are still intact, i have some pictures of them. the scratchings seemed quite fresh at the time i was there so i can't tell you if its vandalism or something else, have you come accross this before?

I've seen a lot there and i do get quite freaked out about it but i'm still skeptical, I've heard some over the top storys about people seeing ghosts and so on but i haven't seen anything like that, I do remember turning up at the church one night and the graves were covered in candles, I took a few pictures but when i got them developed there were no candles, i still can't explain that one. (this was just before digital cameras made the big entrance)

If you ever decide to make the trip down this way let me know, i'd gladly take you around and let you see my research and let you take copies.

Is there anything you really want to know about the place?

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Cold Christmas

Thanks Dyvid,

I had heard about some children dying around christmas and being buried in the churchyard but I didn't know the story around their deaths.  I imagine it is a rather atmospheric location given what I have heard about the churchyard and no doubt a lot of strories have probably grown through telling about what has actually been experienced there.  What do you know about the haunting or associated ghost stories? 

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Thanks Dyvid, and welcome.

Thanks Dyvid, and welcome. Information on Cold Christmas and Thundridge Church seems to be quite thin on the ground.. I did find a video of nearby Thundridge Church on Youtube though:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9GcPnqy10vc

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http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Sac1wnQdhcA

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=hr0Usj6v8kE&feature=related

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=9GcPnqy10vc&feature=related

The video links above aren't to my own videos but they let you get a pretty good look at what the place looks like.

I'm not to sure if the story about the deaths is true or just a fabrication to make it sound "better" but i can say that the deaths are 100% fact.

I spent about 7 nights in a row visiting the place and a few days in that period as well because it really caught my attention. I personaly had a few weird experiences, i was sitting in the church yard taking some photos when i felt really uneasy as i looked around my camera and tripod fell over, this may sound mundane but the tripod had spikes on the legs to anchor it into the ground.

One day was pretty uneventful but i got into my car and discovered my coat hood was full of small stones.

I took pictures of the candles i saw, the photos came out but the candles weren't in them.

one night i could hear a sound as if someone was blowing over the top of a milk bottle inside the bricked up church now this scared me to the point that i haven't been back during the night since, i clearly remember the journey back because as i got in the car a thick fog decended over the whole place and the moment i hit the old A10 it cleared.

The atmosphere feels really heavy there, before i even knew of the storys and background i could feel something wasn't right about the place. I'm not to hot at weather and geography but the whole place feels a lot colder than 5mins drive down the road.

i've heard some people say that they have seen an old woman who seems to fade into the air when they get near, it sounds pretty far fetched but i've heard the story from a few people so i belive there is an element of truth in it, one peson said they saw her decompose and crumble but this sounds like a slight exageration if not complete fiction.

there was one guy i know who was convinced he picked up some sort of spirit, he didn't leave his house for weeks, he was so convinced that she was talking to him and telling him she knew where he lived and was on the way. He's fine now but at the time you could tell he had a genuine fear about himself. if you come down i'll try and arrange for you to meet him.

all in all i do belive something is going on in cold christmas but i am going to remain open minded to a natural explanation as well as a supernatural one.

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hey cheers neil you must

hey cheers neil you must have posted moments after i started writing.

i've collected a bunch of info over the last few years, mostly screen shots from websites of varying credibility, accounts from people i have met and first hand experiences.

but you are right info is pretty thin on the ground. its hard to say whats what. i've been puttin stuff together looking from matching or closely related storys from different people who i belive don't know each other

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hey

i went today with a few friends and if you walk around the back of the church theres a whole in the concrete that you can get through, as you get in on the right there is a small hole in the wall that if you crawl through there is a flight of stairs. We climbed the stairs and they lead to nothing, when you get to the top look up and theres another set of stairs that start even higher up but are impossible to get to. When you climb the stairs count them!!! i counted 36 on the way up but 40 on the way down!!!! whether thats just me not being able to count remains to be seen but its quite strange.

Also when me and a couple of others were inside, a couple of others were outside and said that they saw an old woman in the field walking a dog, i didnt think anything of it until i read about the story of people seeing an old woman and realised that nobody noticed where she went but maybe just a coincidence.

And the final thing that again was maybe just another coincidence on the way home one of my friends driving crashed his car!!! possibly a curse again only time will tell

if you could get back in touch and maybe send some pictures that would be brilliant



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