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Spirit Of The Greenwood by Barbara Green


Robin Hoods Grave --a modern mystery!  Even more terrifying than the Blair Witch Project and a thousand times more intriguing than any Brother Caedfel mystery, SECRETS OF THE GRAVE and it's sequel SPIRIT OF THE GREENWOOD reveal, for the first time, the true story of the life and death of Robin Hood. Enter the dark, mysterious woods of Kirklees in West Yorkshire, and visit, with writer historian Barbara Green, the forest of Barnsdale where Robin roamed and the ruined priory gatehouse of Kirklees Nunnery where he was treacherously slain by the hand of an evil nun. Written testimonies from those who have experienced the ghostly presence of Robin and his comrades, whose spirits haunt this ancient forest, form the basis of both books, while the life of Robin, as told in SPIRIT OF THE GREENWOOD, accords fully with the Lytell Geste,(Robin's first biography) printed in the fifteenth century. This, one might think, could be the basis for a best selling book, but such seems to not to be the case, for ,according to the "experts" the public do not want to knw the truth and prefer to be fed the myth of Sherwood Forest and the dastardy deeds of the Sheriff of Nottingham, not to mention Richard the Lionheart, who does not even belong in the story at all!

The mystery of Robin's gruesome death at Kirklees, it would seem, is not the only inexplicable phenomenon surrounding the legend ! Why ARE people prevented from learning the true facts about the oulaw's life, due to the propogation of a fantasy by the media, and why is his famous grave at Kirklees, kept in a state of secrecy and neglect - and who is responsible for this bizarre situation? Dare you ask ? Dare you investigate and............. dare YOU print the truth ? Or is Robin Hood's legend to remain distorted out of all recognition, and the real man lost to future generations forever ?

"No one could see anything in the dense, suffocating blackness, but following Mark's directions we stumbled on forward through the barrier of writhing, intertwining bushes and trees; then suddenly, we found ourselves in a clearing, where, looming out of the gloom, rearing up before us in the light of our flickering torches, a massive,broken edifice was revealed . A huge ship of stone, wrecked in the everglades of Kirklees, listing crazily into the leaping shadows. We stood transfixed with fear and awe as we gazed upon the fallen pillars and twisted railings which were all that remained of Yorkshire's buried treasure -Robin Hood's Grave."

"My name is Ozymandias,king of kings:
Look on my works, ye Mighty and despair!"
Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck,boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away."
SHELLEY

Robin Hood's death is recorded in the ballad ROBIN HOOD, HIS DEATH AND BURIAL and briefly in the GESTE. According to the literature Robin is taken ill and decides to go to Kirklees Priory to be nursed by the prioress, who was "nye of his kin" and reputedly skilled in healing. On the way to the nunnery Robin is cursed by a witch - for reasons unknown, as the ballad is unfortunately incomplete. When Robin arrives at the nunnery, Little John, who has accompanied him, is sent away and the prioress proceeds to bleed Robin by opening a vein in his arm - standard medieval medicine, though unlikely to do anyone much good !

"Shee laid the blood irons to Robin Hood's vaine
Alacke the more pitye!
And perct the vaine, and let out the bloode,
That full red was to see. At first it bled,the thicke,thicke blood,
And afterwards the thinne,
And well then wist good Robin Hoode,
Treason there was within."
DEATH, V 16-17

2) According to the legend, Robin summons Little John with three blasts of his trusty hunting horn and the giant rushes to his comrade' s assistance, but alas,he is too late and Robin is already dying. With his last ounce of strength Robin fires his last arrow from the priory gatehouse window, requesting that where it falls he should be buried. Little John is beside himself with rage and grief and threatens to raze the nunnery and all its inhabitants to the ground.

"A boon,a boon," cried Little John,
"Master ,I beg of thee."
"What is that boon,"quoth Robin ,
"Little John,thou begs of me?"
"It is to burn fair Kirkley Hall,
"And all their nunnery."
"I ne'er hurt fair maid in all my life
"Nor at my end shall it be;
"But give me my bent bow in my hand,
"And my broad arrows I'll let flee.
"And where this arrow is taken up,
"There shall my grave digged be,
"Lay me a green sod under my head,
"And another at my feet.
"And lay my bent bow by my side
"Which was my music sweet,
"And make my grave of gravel and green,
"Which is most right and meet.
"Let me have length and breadth enough
"With a green sod under my head:
"That they may say when I am dead
"HERE LIES BOLD ROBIN HOOD."

The grave, six hundred yards from the gatehouse, was enclosed in iron railings in the nineteenth century. Today it is neglected and overgrown and little known to the general public. It bears the inscription:

Here underneath dis laitl stean
Laz robert earl of Huntintun
Ne'er arcir ver as hie sa geud
An pipl kauld im robin heud
Sick utlawz as his as iz men
Vil england nivr si agen
THE DEATH OF ROBIN HOOD
At first it bled the thicke thicke blood
And afterwards the thinne
And well then wist good Robin Hood
Treason there was within

3) The death of Robin Hood is a well known legend. He was treacherously bled to death by the wicked prioress of Kirklees nunnery, a small Cistercian house near Brighouse, West Yorkshire. The outlaw's gory and unheroic end is shrouded in mystery. Who was the evil nun and why did she commit so foul a murder? What was the role of Red Roger of Doncaster, who was present at the scene of crime? Was he a priest and also the prioress's lover? Who WAS the prioress? Was she Dame Elizabeth de Stainton, whose grave can still be seen at Kirklees, or was it Sister Mary Startin, who died of the Black Death in 1350?

All that is left of this medieval whodunit is a ruined grave, hidden in deep woodland, and the derelict priory gatehouse of Kirklees where Robin was so gruesomely done to death. Was the famous outlaw a vitim of thwarted passion,pagan sacrifice, bad nursing, accident, natural causes or - vampirism ? The entire area where this horrific drama took place is shrouded in ,according to one old book, " .....a mystery which local people only reluctantly tried to penetrate.The mystery was helped physically by the thick shroud of trees that surrounded the place and was sustained by local tales of prioresses and nuns and of the death of Robin Hood......."
THE HAUNTING OF ROBIN HOOD’S GRAVE

"Terribilis Est Locus Iste" Dreadful is this place - Abbe Berenger Sauniere, Renne-le-Chateau.

"The Armytage family lived over the brow of the hill on a splendid site once occupied by Cistercian nuns. It was called Kirklees. There was more than an insularity which set the mansion apart. There was a mystery about it which local people only reluctantly tried to penetrate. The mystery was helped physically by the thick shroud of trees that surrounded the place and was sustained by local tales of ghosts of prioresses and nuns and or the death of Robin Hood whose grave is so imperturbably marked as lying within Kirklees grounds in spite of any facts which might suggest to the contrary. " THE LAND OF LOST CONTENT.

This would appear to be the first reported mention of ghostly activity around Robin Hood's Grave, but considering the history of Robin's death - cursed by a witch on his way to the nunnery, murdered by an apostate nun and cast into an unhallowed grave - it is hardly surprising that the site is reputed to have unquiet spirits hovering around. An elderly lady, Mrs Edith Ellis, witnessed silver arrows in the sky above Kirklees when visiting her old aunt at Hartshead in the early years of the last century. She also reports hearing Robin calling for Marian.

Another sighting was made by a tenant farmer of Kirklees in 1926. "One day," he recalls, " I was sitting on the grave shooting rabbits. As I was about to shoot I felt a tap on my shoulder, and my shotgun went off accidentally, removing two of my front teeth on its recoil. There was nobody to be seen at the time. On another occasion I was on my way home from the Three Nuns. As I was walking through the woods something fell out of a tree and knocked me to the ground. When I got up I could see the old gatehouse. In the window I could clearly see a man with a bow. My family always said it was the drink, but it was Robin Hood's ghost."

In 1963 guitarist Roger Williams took an unofficial stroll up to Robin's grave with a friend. About twenty yards from the grave he saw a white robed woman who suddenly seemed to glide towards the two men. What made Roger's hair stand on end was how silently she moved over the twigs and bracken. At about five yards from Roger the woman stopped and stared at him with "dark,mad eyes." Then she moved away and vanished. It was 2.30 p.m. on a bright,sunny day. Roger Williams saw the same apparition again in 1972, in full daylight, and again she stopped a few yards from him and his companion. This time Roger remembered a few more details. The woman was wearing a long white dress with a square neck and long sleeves which accords with the habit of a Cistercian nun. Again she looked at him angrily before moving off, but the eerie sequel to this experience was that Roger's house then experienced a series of strange noises and bangings. After this, Roger swore that "wild horses would not drag me up there again."

Mark Gibbons, one of the founder members of Gravewatch, had a similar experience
in 1998. With other members of the group he had gone up to try and find Robin's grave one moonlit night, but they had got lost. Suddenly Mark saw a white figure pointing in a certain direction - which turned out to be where the grave was situated. Mark also experienced a sensation of great evil and hatred.

Shortly after this a reporter Judith Broadbent, from the Dewsbury Reporter, and a photographer colleague, Sue Ellis were allowed to visit the gravesite by the owner. While wandering around she heard heavy footsteps behind her and she was pulled to the ground by invisible forces. She shouted "get away" and her friend came rushing to help her. Her camera had jammed while trying to photograph the grave. A week later Sue was taken seriously ill and was paralysed f from the neck downwards for two weeks. The two reporters later wrote this article up for Yorkshire Life magazine, much of its content being taken from Yorkshire Robin Hood Society literature, including the next sighting, which appeared in THE UNEXPLAINED magazine in 1992, prior to the publication of their article.

This was when vampires entered the arena, introduced to the increasing enigmatic situation by a Bishop of the Holy Grail Church and patron of the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society. In 1992 the Bishop and two colleagues, attempted an exorcism at Kirklees. This had come about as a result of the Yorkshire Robin Hood Society asking for the site to be blessed by the local vicar. Unfortunately permission to perform such a ceremony had been unequivocally refused to both clergymen. The Bishop, however, was made of sterner stuff than the local pastor ! He was renowned for his involvement in the notorious Highgate Vampire affair in the nineteen seventies and it occurred to him that vampires might be behind the legend of Robin being bled to death and this needed urgent spiritual intervention - and he was the man for the job, with or without official sanction ! Suffice to say that on his clandestine visit to the grave the bishop came across the body of a blood drained goat, diabolical rune signs of the priory gatehouse, fingr width holes in the ground round the grave - suggesting vampiric activity - and was confronted by a darkly clad woman who turned into a hag with red staring eyes.

A further sighting by another nocturnal visitor proved a terrifying experience when she saw two figures hovering in the trees surrounding the grave, who she took to be the evil prioress and her paramour Red Roger of Doncaster. " I felt, and saw, what I can only describe streams of evil pouring out of the trees towards me" the witness stated. A lady from Nottingham, who visited the grave in the summer of 2000, experienced a psychic communication with Robin at the graveside, as did Robin Hood expert John de Locksley of the London Robin Hood Club, who also boldly battled through the giant ferns, murderous brambles and other lethal obstacles of the Kirklees rain forest to stand by his hero's grave one wild,wet October night the same year !

It is true that Robin's grave was excavated in an amateurish way by a Victorian Armytage (who was reputed to be in his cups at the time) and the ground beneath found to be undisturbed, but the many historical documents naming Kirklees as Robin's final resting place cannot be ignored. The fact is, his bones could lie anywhere on that hillside, while a gravestone resembling the original one drawn by Dr Johnstone, is to be found in nearby Hartshead churchyard - to where it may have been moved during the Civil War.

5) Many visitors to the grave have recorded their experiences for posterity, including the following quote from a Victorian tourist :
"I had the strangest emotions when I first stood over the grave of this old forest hero. I stood there and had no words, nor can I find any now to tell what my feelings were. Bravehearted Robin ! Thou hast found a fit resting place in this glorious park, among these solemn yews and silent trees ."A hundred years later it is a different story:
"There it was, looming out of the dark, a massive, broken edifice, a huge ship of stone, wrecked in the everglades of Kirklees. Fallen pillars and twisted railings were were all that remained on Yorkshire's buried treasure. We had found Robin Hood's Grave."
MARK GIBBONS, SECRETS OF THE GRAVE.

Maybe the last word should be with Victorian poet, George Searle Phillips, a friend of the Brontes, who visited the grave in 1848, and wrote an epic poem, a small section of which is printed below :

Tread lightly o'er the earth and speak no word
Till the Great Spirit doth unloose your tongues
For where those yew trees nod their funereal plumes
Upon the highest platform of the hill,
Lies gentle Robin Hood, his mighty heart
All muffled up in dust and his bright eyes
Quenched in eternal darkness. Never more
Shall the woods echo to his bugle horn,
Or his unerring arrow strike the deer
Swift flying, till it hits the bloody grass

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"If he went then he needs to admit it openly and admit he trespassed and stop telling other people off for trespassing." - Barbara Green

Please read what was said on the comment posted yesterday (01/07/2010 at 12:30). It states:

"He has never denied that his vigil near the grave was without the authorisation of the landowner."

What he did not do, unlike you, is participate in an occult ceremony over the grave and publicise the fact to the world.

"If he went then he needs to admit it openly and admit he trespassed and stop telling other people off for trespassing." - Barbara Green

Please provide some evidence of Bishop Manchester "telling other people off for trespassing." And I do mean EVIDENCE, not wishy-washy allegations without any foundation.

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Well it is good to know that the bishop finally admits opely to Trespassing whatever purpose he went for. What was the purpose of the VIGIL? To save local "distressed" folk from the Kirklees vampire? What did they intend doing when they found the vampire other than shouting, Behold the Light! Did he and his two unnamed assistants succeed in getting rid of the vampire--according to the article by BM seeminly not. I did not partake in any occult ceremonies, either with John Pope de Locksley or anyone else--with Redmonkey films I took them to the gravesite for them to do their film- which ultimately proved a waste of time as they were scared off. These are just figments of the bishops imagination, like so much else, which he writes up as "facts".I know a ceremony took place there but Ididnt perform it. There is a difference.If Mr M was beside a murder that took place he would not therefore be the murderer!

If I trespassed then I trespassed for whatever purpose, exactly as the bishop did,it makes no difference whether for a vigil or a ceremony, making a film or listening to the birds .However ,like the bishop,I didnt get any complaints from her ladyship; on the other hand I did not write to her smarmy letters to get into her Social List, as Manchester later boasted that they were the best of pals. However I heard from her minder Mr Hepworth via David's ex secretary that such was not the case.

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In lost property is a purple tea cosy.Does this belong to anyone?Without it someones tea will get very cold.Unless they wear it on their head.Now who do we know who does that?

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What do you mean by "finally"? There is no "finally" about it. This has been Bishop Manchester's stated position all along. In fact, if you consult the VRS blogs/forums and his own boards you will find this was confirmed years ago.

You are once again raising questions on a forum where they cannot be answered because the only person who can address them is not a member. Why don't you ask him instead of hiding your attacks where he does not see them? You know how to put questions to Bishop Manchester on his Q&A blog. So what's stopping you? It is cowardly to attack someone in public without their knowledge. You can put questions to him at: http://therightreverendseanmanchester.blogspot.com

You keep repeating down the years that there were "two unnamed assistants" as if withholding the identity of non-public figures in a highly controversial area of research is somehow unusual or something worthy of your constant criticism. Yet you do not apply the same maxim to your "patron" who, let's face it, has never named anyone who assisted him beyond your mutual friend, ie Satanist John Pope de Locksley.

You say you did not participate in an occult ceremony, but all the photographs taken during the actual ritual over the tomb itself show you at the forefront. There you are next to the self-proclaimed "occultists" with paraphernalia used for performing an occult ceremony laid out on the grave before you. Only one person might have actually "performed" the ritual, but you were right there alongside him when he did so. If your only purpose was to lead the "occultists" to the grave, why didn't you stand back and let them get on with it? Why did you need to be next to them at the tomb?

I have asked you to provide evidence for your constant bickering and personal attacks on Bishop Manchester - evidence that will stand up, not meaningless accusations without substance - and you have once again failed to do so.

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Actually there was no evidence other than Bishop Manchester's word about what happened at Kirklees--there was no references or sources for anyone else involved or independent accounts of vampiric or strange occurances which were causing people to be "distressed", and any published results as to whether Bishop Manchester's VIGIL helped the situation in any way. Totally unscientific and subjective--as in the Highgate Vampire case, no objective back-up evidence whatsoever, but woe betide anyone who questions the Bishop's word, or even asks an inncoent awkward question! The person who has the audacity to do such a thing will soon pay dearly for his or her mistake. Also the Bishop tried to muddy the waters and fudge the issue by writing a load of syncophantic twaddle about how he and Lady A had a very nice cosy relationship, despite him ignoring her reply that she didnt want the ISAILVR--Manchesters International Society for the Irreproducable Vampire and Werewolf Research--(or someothing like that!) vampire hunting on her land, but he carried on and hunted said vampiure-------not according to her minder David Hepworth, f riend of David's ex secretary!

Bishop Manchester is free to read what I write hear, who can point him in the right direction if you a re so concerned for his precious reputation. He ventured onto my facebook reading the riot act, well I am not putting up with that, so I banned and deleted him. When the day arrives, if ever it should, that the Grandiose Bishop can get down off his high horse and stop sitting in judgement like Jehovah himself over anyone who disagrees or questions his accounts of situations without getting berated as a Satanistand whatnot then maybe we might have some dialogue. I doubt that day will ever come. He is a hopeless case of
Grandioseness.

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"Woe betide anyone who questions the Bishop's word, or even asks an inncoent awkward question." - Barbara Green

I have asked you to provide evidence for your constant attacks and allegations about Bishop Manchester - evidence that will stand up, not meaningless accusations without substance - and you have yet again failed to do so.

"He ventured onto my facebook reading the riot act, well I am not putting up with that, so I banned and deleted him." - Barbara Green

Completely false! Nothing from Bishop Manchester was posted on your Facebook page. He sent you two PRIVATE messages and then immediately blocked YOU because you had betrayed his confidence by sharing his private messages with David Farrant and discussed them on Farrant's Facebook page.

The Facebook PM exchange between you and Bishop Manchester has now been put in the public domain by the bishop, which is why I am able to reproduce it with permission in its entirety:

The following was sent by Bishop Seán Manchester via private message at 12.00 pm June 27, 2010, to Barbara Green:

Dear Barbara,

You and I fell out when you decided thirteen or so years ago to establish contact with someone who has attempted to harm me, my wife, my family and my friends for a very long period of time. Everything else could be overcome, but not that act of disloyalty. You opted to take the word of this man, which of course is entirely your choice, and that is why we are in schism and shall always be so.

That notwithstanding, there are fabrications you relentlessly publish on the internet which I and others find truly bewildering. These allegations of yours are based on nothing more than the paranoia emanating solely from your Muswell Hill friend. One of these bizarre and quite ridiculous claims is that I have been in "collusion" with Catherine Fearnley and that she acts under my "direction." Yesterday evening you repeated the absurd notion that this female sent me a manuscript of some sort and that I "had a dickipoggy." I must tell you that I received no such manuscript and would not want to receive anything concerning your friend in Muswell Hill.

I heard from Catherine Fearnley soon after she broke up with her boyfriend in 2007. Her purpose for contacting me was to apologise for making so much trouble and for trying to cause me and mine harm both at the instigation of her boyfriend and of her own free will. I accepted her apology and advised her to ignore the person who was at the heart of all this enmity. I received one or two Christian greetings following her initial communication and that was all. We have not since communicated, she is not a friend and is not a member of any forum or group I administrate. Far from "colluding" or giving her "direction," I have had no further contact with Miss Fearnley. Frankly, I find it sad that people well into their sixties feel driven to behave in this infantile manner of inventing scenarios and creating rumour. All you and your Muswell Hill friend are achieving is the spread of untrue and malicious gossip which any intelligent person would dismiss at a glance. Quite why you feel the need to perpetuate such a vendetta is difficult to comprehend, but I felt it necessary to tell you the facts in view of your claim to belong to the Christian Faith; otherwise I would not have bothered.

Please try and understand that the only people you and your friend are hurting with this continuing hate campaign is yourselves.

Peace by with you,

+Seán Manchester

"Events came later that resulted in the person mentioned making a fabricated statement to the Police (under the directions of one wearing a tea pot cosy) So yes. the story is not finished: in fact, it has only just begun!"

- David Farrant (June 25 at 11:17pm on Farrant's Facebook)

"It was very odd that C sent her script to MM for his approval and he had a dickipoggy."

- Barbara Green (June 26, 2010 at 11:31 pm)

http://davidfarrant.org/TheHumanTouch/?p=880#comments

Sent by Barbara Green on 27 June 2010 at 20:35 to Bishop Seán Manchester:

Dont uyou dare lecture me you patronising hypocrite. Please dont feel it necessary to "bother" yourself again or I shall ban you.

I have had more lie, threats and nonsence written about myself from you than by anyone else.In fact, apart from a few Robin Hood nutcases, and that madwoman in the church-----no , not Catherine, good luck to her if she has been saved, -----I dont have any other nasty peoplebothering me

Enjoy Pact with the Devil, you old devil!

The following was sent by Bishop Seán Manchester via private message at 4.44 pm June 29, 2010, to Barbara Green:

"Thanks David--I expect you will pop up on my facebook now, but I have had an uninvited intruder telling me off--on my own facebook!! who I will be deleting in due course, tata"

- Barbara Green (June 27, 2010 at 5:47pm on Facebook)

Dear Barbara,

How exactly was I telling you off in my private message sent two days' ago? All I did was set you straight on matters that appear to be of some considerable importance to you - given how many times you refer to them on the internet. And I did so in view of your stated claim to be a Christian; a Roman Catholic convert no less. Your response was to send me an extremely abusive reply and to share my private message with someone on the Left-hand Path who has been waging a hate campaign against me relentlessly for forty years.

You must ask yourself whether your behaviour is that of a genuine Christian? Or whether you are deluding yourself?

"You shall know them by their fruit," and your fruit, Barbara, has proven over and over again to be poisonous.

You are very judgemental and side with those who oppose Christ and His followers. You look for the speck in my eye almost every time you post something on an internet forum, while overlooking the enormous plank in your own eye.

You appear to have made your pact, and must live with it. How you find this commensurate with church attendance you alone know.

When I sent you a private message I provided you with a perfect opportunity to clarify matters by putting questions to me, but, of course, anyone who has thrown in their lot with the "father of lies" would not want to hear the truth. Indeed, they would not be able to abide the truth. This you and your Muswell Hill friend have in common. This is why you seek each other's company via the internet.

You ceased to be your own person the moment you allied yourself with someone convicted of diabolical goings-on; a man who became the Devil's plaything a very long time ago. This is why you still remain lost more than thirteen years since he turned you.

No matter what you might proclaim for public consumption to show support for your paranoid friend, you know within yourself that the daily rants against me containing innuendo and maliciousness are nothing more than fabrication originating from one source. Everything you and your atheistic associate accuse me of is without foundation, and you know it, which is why you are never able to produce a shred of evidence to back up any of your many allegations. Do you never stop to ask yourself why you are behaving this way? What have I ever really done against you apart from ceasing communication once you had become an ally of my adversary? Have I published adverse material about you in a book? Have I mocked and tried to ridicule you? So why did you?

You must live with the certain knowledge that you, Barbara, have chosen of your own volition to bear false witness against someone who, no matter how imperfectly, follows Christ; someone who is well and truly on the Right-hand Path of discipleship.

This is the path of your choice. I see it as the Left-hand Path of falsehood and deception. Every step along it takes you further from the truth. Some part of you already knows this. Yet you continue to walk into the darkening shadow and away from the Light.

So be it.

+Seán Manchester

http://therightreverendseanmanchester.blogspot.com/2009/11/adventus.html

[The bishop has confirmed that he blocked Barbara Green on Facebook within a minute or two of sending the above message, which means she can neither access or see his Facebook page even though it is not set to private.]

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Dear Barbara,

You and I fell out when you decided thirteen or so years ago to establish contact with someone who has attempted to harm me, my wife, my family and my friends for a very long period of time.

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You had a dickipoggy because I mentioned David in Secrets of the Grave and you threatened me with legal action from your haha "legal team" Michael Thane and Dennis Crawford, even though what I wrote about you was entirely based on what you had written about yourslef in a pompous fit.

I DID NOT "ATTEMPT TO ESTABLISH CONTACT" with David, I merely contacted him as I am perfectly entitltled to do so--we are not in Stalins Russia--- about a seperate matter anyway, and, please note, I would never have heard of the guy is you had not bombarded me with photocopies of your feud with him, which was of absolutely no interest to me-you were just recruiting as many people as you could to be on your side against David-- i wasn't the only one thus carpet bombed with antidavidproproganda

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Everything else could be overcome, but not that act of disloyalty. You opted to take the word of this man, which of course is entirely your choice, and that is why we are in schism and shall always be so.

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Disloyal? You , Manchester, methinks a re disloyal, and also I dont take the word of any tom dick or harry but in order to make an objective judgement you have to investigate all sides of a story. Thats what professional investigators, historians, scientist , paranormal investigators. FBI, detectives do--even Christian apologists, they INVESTIGATE which means they dont just accept the word of One person---well excepting Jesus!

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That notwithstanding, there are fabrications you relentlessly publish on the internet which I and others find truly bewildering. These allegations of yours are based on nothing more than the paranoia emanating solely from your Muswell Hill friend. One of these bizarre and quite ridiculous claims is that I have been in "collusion" with Catherine Fearnley and that she acts under my "direction." Yesterday evening you repeated the absurd notion that this female sent me a manuscript of some sort and that I "had a dickipoggy." I must tell you that I received no such manuscript and would not want to receive anything concerning your friend in Muswell Hill.

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FRANKLY WHO CARES WHAT A FOOLISH CHOICE SHE CHOOSES TO MAKE, ANYHOW IT WASNT YOU IT WA SOMEONE ELSE WHO DIVERTED HER OFF DAVID

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I heard from Catherine Fearnley soon after she broke up with her boyfriend in 2007. Her purpose for contacting me was to apologise for making so much trouble and for trying to cause me and mine harm both at the instigation of her boyfriend and of her own free will. I accepted her apology and advised her to ignore the person who was at the heart of all this enmity.

THIS IS DICKIPOGGY FOR STARTERS CONSIDERING HER HISTORY
OR CHOPPING AND CHANGING SIDES--WHY SHOULD SHE APOLOGISE TO YOU UNLESS SHE HAD ANOTHER GAME PLAN IN MIND?

I received one or two Christian greetings following her initial communication and that was all. We have not since communicated, she is not a friend and is not a member of any forum or group I administrate. Far from "colluding" or giving her "direction," I have had no further contact with Miss Fearnley. Frankly, I find it sad that people well into their sixties feel driven to behave in this infantile manner of inventing scenarios and creating rumour. All you and your Muswell Hill friend are achieving is the spread of untrue and malicious gossip which any intelligent person would dismiss at a glance.

YES LOOK AT YOURSELF FIRST BEFORE MAKING SUCH A BOMBASTIC STATEMENT--YOU HAVE GONE ON ABOUT IT FOR AS LONG A DAVID SO THAT MAKES YOU BOTH ABOUT EQUAL !!!!!!!!!

Quite why you feel the need to perpetuate such a vendetta is difficult to comprehend, but I felt it necessary to tell you the facts in view of your claim to belong to the Christian Faith; otherwise I would not have bothered.

TOO KIND OF YOU TO FIND THE SPACE--YOU HAVE PRINTED PLENTY OF UNTRUE GARBAGE ABOUT MYSELF, IF YOU CAN COMPREHEND THAT!

Please try and understand that the only people you and your friend are hurting with this continuing hate campaign is yourselves.

NAH! WE'RE JUST TICKERTIBOO!

Peace by with you,

AND YOU

GREENWYCH

+Seán Manchester

greenwych
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Re: Spirit Of The Greenwood by Barbara Green

PS In diverting the subject--your usual tactic--you did not answer the questions about Kirklees.

Does Bishop Manchester state quite clearly "I trespassed on the Kirklees Estate in 1992 in order to excorcise a vampire which was terrorising the local folk."

Thanks

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Re: Spirit Of The Greenwood by Barbara Green

I will tell you as a general comment what is wrong with this type of person's agenda

They have very important notions about themselves

They will not listen to anyone elses points of view

They have no sense of humour

They have no common sence

They will not accept any critisism

They make subjective judgments on anyone who disagrees with them, and then they accuse that person of being satanic or something dreadful.

I will post on a link shortly to allow you to contact his infallibleness for his response. If it is sensible and calm we will then speak to him, if he is ranting and raving we will not.

greenwych

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Re: Spirit Of The Greenwood by Barbara Green

More importantly, Barbara, people will have perhaps noticed that the 'anonymous' person talking ABOUT 'bishop' Manchester (he knows nothing about all this, etc, etc) has direct access to his private correspondence.
Now, how could this be so if they were not one and the same person.
Kinda proves my point, soesn't it?
Thanks Sean,

David Farrant, Patron, Yorkshire Robin Hood Society



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