The King in the Mountain

The King in the Mountain

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  1. Daniel Parkinson says:

    I think a lot of these myths

    I think a lot of these myths have parrallels in fairy lore (ancient belief?) about the otherworld where heroes do not die but cross over to the otherworld ready to return, caves being obvious gateways to the otherworld, and, any hero ancient or modern can fit into these motifs. The other similarity is with some world religions – the root of thse motifs would be worth exploring.

  2. Mauro says:

    It’s a very ancient
    It’s a very ancient "messianic" idea and it’s not very removed from the religious idea of a saviour who will reappear when the time is ripe. All three major monotheistic religions subscribe to this idea (orthodox Islam is slightly different though with the Mahdi figure) and there are hosts of other religious figures from around the world.
    The Bergtruckung is much more "immediate" and promises the return of a popular hero to achieve some tangible result, for example King Arthur rising from his slumber to lead Britain once again or Matthias Corvinus returning to save Hungary from the treacherous magnates and the blasphemous Turkish hosts.
    Fairy stories are much more of a "Rip Van Winkle" type. This idea wasn’t invented by Washington Irving but is much much more ancient. Ossian is the first example that springs to mind but the most emblematic is the one involving Wang Chi, one of the "Eight Immortals" of Taoism, who stopped in cave while gathering firewood to look at some old men playing chess. By the time he was told to return home he found centuries had passed and nothing remained of the world as he had known it. Some folklorists and researchers were intrigued by the fact that these folktales clearly show knowledge of relativity centuries before Einstein and Langevin were born. But that should be covered by itself since it has much more significative implications than the Bergtruckung.

    In Distortion We Trust

  3. Seannachaidh says:

    Type 766

    Sleeping hero legends are classed as type 766 tales and occur throughout history in almost every culture.

    As times and fashionable tales changed, so too does the sleeping hero.  I’ve heard the legend applied to Robert the Bruce and William Wallace, where previously the hero would have been Merlin or Arthur, Thomas the Rhymer, or Scott the Border Wizard.

    Like Arnie says – I’ll be back.

  4. BaronIveagh says:

    It might sound odd, but it’s
    It might sound odd, but it’s possible that a few of these stories might contain some grain of truth, in the form of some sort of localized space-time distortion.  This isn’t unknown, things like planes arriving impossibly early or people discovering what they thought was a few moments was really hours or days have been documented before.

    Summum Nec Metuam Diem Nec Optima

  5. Seannachaidh says:

    Time is certainly subjective

    Time is certainly subjective on the speed your neurones fire.  When we were kids the summers seemed to last a life time, as our thought processes fairly flew around the old brainbox.  We get glimpses of that again if we get a sudden adrenalin rush, as when involved in an accident and everything seems to slow down impossibly, letting us react.  I never heard of planes actually arriving impossibly soon, though. 

    If you were a giant, you would seem to do everything more slowly than a smaller person, because the distance the firing neurones have to travel has become a lot greater.

    In Scotland, everyone knows a night in Fairyland lasts a year and a day in this one. 

    Dunno where I am going with this ramble, though.  LOL